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Even though the evidence doesn’t quite provide for it, I had something hit me the other day while I was in the car, and I figured I should share it with you guys as just something to think about and discuss. I thought about including this as a minor side-note in the post I’m working on about folklore and religion, but I think it might be better on its own. Essentially, it boils down to one question.

What if BLI created the Killjoys?

And by “create”, I mean, what if they took these four people—or maybe even just one of the four—and…for lack of a better word, counter-brainwashed them? I’m not sure how I can better explain it because it’s barely a half-baked idea. But I was thinking about stuff like 1984 and The Matrix, how those in control tend to create what they need to keep things going as they have always been. Actually, The Matrix might be a better comparative work for this because of the cyclical nature that apparently exists before Neo decides, “Screw this, I’m gonna do what I want.”

I’m stuck here pondering whether or not Korse and the Killjoys have been doing this same dance in the desert for longer than we think—and I mean the exact same process. Every step, every word, every idea, ending with the Killjoys getting “killed”. Think about it. We don’t know where the Killjoys come from. We only sort of know who they are (something I’ll come back to later). They seem to have always just been around.

But there are snags in the theory. Namely:

• Where does that leave Dr. Death Defying, Show Pony, and the Little Girl?
• If they’ve always been under BLI control, wouldn’t somebody eventually realize what was going on?

Plus, there isn’t a whole lot of evidence to suggest that the main Killjoys are or ever were under BLI control. It’s flimsy at best and full of holes, but if I kept it inside my head any longer, I’d probably go around the bend and I’m already running on limited cylinders as is. Discuss!

Did you hear that? That was the sound of my mind being blown.

This made me think about that Doctor Who episode, “The Beast Below”, and I’m just going to leave it at that.

This also kinda relates with something I was thinking after reading something which I found really interesting, which is What if Korse used to be a Killjoy? Sort of the opposite thought, but worth thinking about.

IDEK.

I love you people.

That theory is fucking amazing. I always see people saying that the little girls is evil. What if she really is? What if BLI sent her to be some sort bait and give the Killjoys - this only applies if they are in fact a BLI creation - a mission, a meaning in life? It’s like 1984 - The created the Killjoys (that would be the Book in 1984) to give people the idea that, yes, you can rebel, but no, you cannot win. Idk, I don’t think I’m making any sense. 

Don’t get me started on my “the little girl is evil” theory, some people don’t seem to appreciate it xD

But… idk. What GA originally said reminds me of how someone said (not canon, I believe, but it’s relevant right now so whatever) that ‘Vampire Money’ was meant to be sung by the Killjoys after they’d been brainwashed… Sort of so they would be rebellious enough to make people believe that they were against BL/ind, but in reality it was all just an act?

So basically the Killjoys would be… a way to fool people into believing that someone was rebelling. Maybe, since they were killed, even a way to scare people. Like ‘look what will happen to you if you do what they did’.

I’m rambling right now :D

YES, YES! Just like 1984 (you can notice this is one of my favourite books), they created the Killjoys to be a symbol of rebellion, they’d give them a mission and then they’d kill/brainwash them. 

And, you know, there’s always that theory, as in Sucker Punch, Repo Man or whatever: It’s all a dream. Like, the beginning is real, they try and rebel, but they get captured and locked up or brainwashed and create an universe in which they manage to win, or at least fight for longer. I don’t think they’ll win, though, hm. 

And fyi, dude, in my experience, little girls are ways fucking evil. 

Makes sense to me. 

But you know what? I’m starting to feel like I’ve been reading too much into things and getting way too much into this. Like, there’s no point in wondering about this stuff because I’m making it way more complicated than it actually is.

But I like that we’re being given the time and opportunity to speculate about everything and create our little theories and somehow create a part of the whole ‘verse, you know? I don’t think there is actually a definite canon yet and that gives us freedom to imagine our own, or whatever. 

I’m not even making sense anymore because I’m so into this and I have so many theories and ideas and I don’t know what’s real and what’s just a theory anymore. 

OH MY GOD. MINDFUCK, YOU GUISE.

How did I miss this WHOLE REBLOGGED THREAD? Seriously. Usually my blog-specific Dash is pretty good about letting me know when people add commentary to their reblogs (or I make a note to click/lurk just in case when it doesn’t), but somehow I totally missed all of this! This all can’t have happened while I was off experiencing the wonder of Doctor Who from the start of the Ninth Doctor last night, right?

Anyway. Breaking this down.

El: I haven’t gotten to “The Beast Below” yet, so when I get to that episode, I’ll get back to you. Still, the mention of an “evil little girl” does make me think briefly of Iris in the “Epitaph One” episode of Dollhouse. (Not who I got my Killjoy’s birth name from, FYI. Iris has always been a name to stick since I’ve pondered what my steampunk name would be.) But I’m rather interested to hear this theory. I mean…I suppose my love of theories is quite obvious, even it might be thinking too hard/reading too much. Occupational hazard. XD But it’s definitely been fun, all the theorizing and such. Seeing all the connections that people can make it still really amazing. It’s the sign of a good piece of creative work, that it can tap into so many thoughts and concepts.

Death-Ballon: I didn’t even think about Emmanuel Goldstein and The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism! Holy crap! (Also: Nice Tumblr layout. Van Gogh is a big favorite and since I’ve been getting into Doctor Who recently…) For those not in the know, go out and get a copy of 1984—I’m sure I’ve said this already—and actually read it. Go! This’ll be here when you get back. And to continue on the 1984 bend, let’s look at the videos for a second. The first two are story-based, the second ending on a rather tense/tragic cliffhanger…and then are followed by something completely different (though relatively related by way of aesthetics and presence in the universe and the like). A similar thing happens within the book. There’s plot, plot, plot, plot, major shit happens…and then we get an excerpt from the Book. For no immediately discernible reason. It’s just there. Only after we get through it do we return to the plot, and I guess it could be skipped, but it is somewhat necessary because it relates to the characters we’ve been following around.

Um… There was somewhere I was going with this, but I’ve forgotten it for the moment in getting distracted by researching something on the book. Sorry. /o\ But I haven’t seen Sucker Punch yet! Shhh! Don’t say anymore! XD

Pseudo Orwell also reblogged this and added:

This is a super intriguing idea. I actually had a similar thought recently and dismissed it for the same reasons, but then again, we don’t know who was brainwashed. Also, they could have really killed the Killjoys and this is just something that BLI does every once in a while, like Neo being one of several “The One”s.

If some aspect of this general theory (however half-baked when I put it forth) is correct, then is it possible we’ll see some new Killjoys produced? And how might they produce them? Brainwashing? Mind-wiping and Impression like in Dollhouse? The Room 101 Treatment? And, since I’ve started watching it, I’ve also even been thinking about regeneration of some kind. XD I was looking at the pictures in the art book, and it really does look like the rayguns are lethal. So how is it possible that the Killjoys survived that fight in “Na Na Na”? Raygun-proof vests? We see they’re not wearing any in the suiting up montage…

I have another troublesome thought to write about, but let’s stick with this one a little longer…

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